Message boards : Graphics cards (GPUs) : No support for Nvidia 1070 ?
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The GPUGrid App has not been adapted for Pascal GPU's yet so your 1070 will not work on this project until it has. | |
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A year ago I wrote "I've a GTX660 (I5; windows 7 64bit ) that I use only for crunching and I'm thinking about upgrading to a GTX970...". | |
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- Does anyone know when Gpugrid will be adapted for Pascal? Days? Weeks? Months?Nobody knows. My guess it will take 1-2 Months. - Until 29th July I have a free upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 10. If I do, I will crunch better? Is worth to do it?Your PC won't crunch better with Windows 10 (for now). However it is worth to update to Windows 10 for other reasons (The support for Windows 7 will end in 2019). If you would run into problems after upgrading, you have 1 month to return to Windows 7. As a part of the upgrade process your PC will acquire a Windows 10 license, so you can install Windows 10 any time later. | |
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- Does anyone know when Gpugrid will be adapted for Pascal? Days? Weeks? Months?Nobody knows. My guess it will take 1-2 Months. That has me thinking... Should I upgrade, or will it use my cpu too much compared to 7? I have core i5 650... might be a bit old for windows 10 | |
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OK, I've tried some other projects, so far only SETI works on it. I'll switch back to GPUgrid when Pascal support is available. | |
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Should I upgrade, or will it use my cpu too much compared to 7? It won't use your CPU more than Windows 7 does. I have core i5 650... might be a bit old for windows 10 It's not old for Windows 10. I've upgraded many PCs, including some with Core2Duo CPUs. Windows 10 is actually *faster* than Windows 7. (More exactly it reacts much faster to user actions) An SSD drive is recommended either for Windows 7 or 10. | |
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Should I upgrade, or will it use my cpu too much compared to 7? Perfect, I'm using an ssd right now. Thank you. | |
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Nobody knows. My guess it will take 1-2 Months. Thank you for your guess and advice. I think I will migrate to Windows 10 now and wait until GPUGrid manage Pascal to upgrade to GTX1070 | |
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Nobody knows. My guess it will take 1-2 Months. Yes. Do that. The 1070 doesn't work here yet, so there is no point buying it now to crunch here. It may also fall in price and future reviews might help you chose which manufacturer model to get. The W10 upgrade is free and W10 will be the last MS OS and thus supported for a long time. IMO almost everyone with a W7 or W8 system should be upgrading ASAP. ____________ FAQ's HOW TO: - Opt out of Beta Tests - Ask for Help | |
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...The W10 upgrade is free and W10 will be the last MS OS and thus supported for a long time. IMO almost everyone with a W7 or W8 system should be upgrading ASAP. Windows 10 will not be the last OS as Windows 10 current "end of life" is expected to occur in 2025. Please refer the the official Windows lifecycle fact sheet here:https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/13853/windows-lifecycle-fact-sheet | |
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...The W10 upgrade is free and W10 will be the last MS OS and thus supported for a long time. IMO almost everyone with a W7 or W8 system should be upgrading ASAP. You did not read carefully the page you've linked. The support period ends in October 14, 2025 for "Windows 10, released in July 2015", which is the previous release of Windows 10 (10.0.10240). The current release is the 10.0.10586 aka "v1511" from November 2015. Both version is codenamed "Threshold". Microsoft will release a new version of Windows 10 in the next month (right after the free upgrade period ends), called v1607. Though these operating systems are more or less different (especially those with different codenames), all of these will be called Windows 10, and probably their major releases will have their own 10-year support period. "Windows 10 is the last Microsoft operating system" is principally a merchandising slogan, it is also acts as a "trick" which allows Microsoft to maintain their upgrading policy, which says there are no free upgrades to a new major Windows version. It is said to be a one time opportunity to upgrade Windows 7, 8, 8.1 to Windows 10 for free. But you can upgrade your Windows 10 for free to its new version every time Microsoft releases one, until your hardware is supported with drivers from their respective manufacturers. In technical sense (according to Microsoft's previous practice) the different codename means different OS, so the upcoming release (codenamed "Redstone") could have been called Windows 11. But instead of changing their upgrading policy to allow free upgrades between major Windows versions, they're saying Windows 10 is the last OS they make, however the OS will evolve "silently" as differently codenamed versions will be released under the same "title". Another change is there won't be service packs in the future, but major releases will be more frequent (about every year). | |
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OK, I've tried some other projects, so far only SETI works on it. Einstein and POEM should work as well. MrS ____________ Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002 | |
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also Collatz works well | |
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Another change is there won't be service packs in the future, but major releases will be more frequent (about every year). That part is worthwhile. We can just download the most recent version when we need to install the OS, rather than downloading years of updates. I am a bit worried that they will be taking more control away from us, but have learned to undo the ill effects of Win10, and can not upgrade to the next version if necessary. I am not anti-Microsoft, but the company has changed over the last few years, and we need to keep an eye on them. | |
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Another change is there won't be service packs in the future, but major releases will be more frequent (about every year). Then you will be delighted to hear that the updates comes to Win10 are cumulative, so there is only a big one (for the OS itself), and some smaller ones (for the antivirus etc) even for a fresh install. I am a bit worried that they will be taking more control away from us, but have learned to undo the ill effects of Win10, and can not upgrade to the next version if necessary. I am not anti-Microsoft, but the company has changed over the last few years, and we need to keep an eye on them. They have adopted what Google (Android OS), and Apple (Mac OS and iOS) are doing for a couple of years. | |
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They have adopted what Google (Android OS), and Apple (Mac OS and iOS) are doing for a couple of years. Yes, but Google has already taken over the world. | |
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Another change is there won't be service packs in the future, but major releases will be more frequent (about every year). I would highly recommend to anyone who is contemplating upgrading to 10 that you read this article first. http://betanews.com/2016/02/06/windows-10-phones-home-a-lot-even-with-all-reporting-and-telemetry-disabled/ Another tidbit is that your free upgrade will only be free if you don't change any major hardware. If you do be prepared to possibly pay for a license. If you change the Motherboard, it will be considered a new device. In this case, you will not be able to get the Windows 10 activated automatically. You can contact the Microsoft tech support, but it may still be not accepted. You might have to buy a license for activating Windows 10 in case of motherboard change. I've already switched all my DC machines to dual boot 7/Linux and my 1 remaining full time Windoze machine is XP. If ATI can ever come up with decent driver support for Ubuntu 16.04 LTS then there will be no more dual boot setups. I will never upgrade to 10, 11, 12, whatever. | |
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We're getting far off topic. I would highly recommend to anyone who is contemplating upgrading to 10 that you read this article first. Anyone who is concerned about their privacy please never ever register to Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, Gmail, iTunes, Snapchat, MySpace or any similar "social network". Also, never ever use a cellphone. No, not a smartphone, a good old GSM cellphone's metadata also tells about your social life a lot. Always pay and receive payment in cash. No credit/debit cards, or money checks. Also, do not post your views about anything on public forums. Another tidbit is that your free upgrade will only be free if you don't change any major hardware. If you do be prepared to possibly pay for a license. That is obvious, especially for an OEM license, which by its definition becomes the part of the computer on activation. The activation binds your license to the different IDs of the parts (for example the MAC address of the network card, or the type of the chipset). If you change a Motherboard under an activated Windows 7 OEM, you can't activate it online (automatically) again, but you can do it by making a phone call, and making a statement that the new copy is the only one in operation. | |
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Anyone who is concerned about their privacy please never ever register to Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, Youtube, Gmail, iTunes, Snapchat, MySpace or any similar "social network". Also, never ever use a cellphone. No, not a smartphone, a good old GSM cellphone's metadata also tells about your social life a lot. Always pay and receive payment in cash. No credit/debit cards, or money checks. Also, do not post your views about anything on public forums. So, by that logic because everyone/everything else is already spying on us Microsoft should be able to join in without your knowledge or consent and charge you monthly for it? If that works for you have at it. I say NFW. And I hope you're not gullible enough to believe monthly fees won't eventually happen to all versions of 10. Microsoft Confirms Windows 10 New Monthly Charge | |
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You didn't get my sarcasm. So, by that logic because everyone/everything else is already spying on us Microsoft should be able to join in...In one word: yes. This is because the market has changed so much by the mobile devices (and their "spying" features), that Microsoft have to change their licensing policy / fees to it. ...without your knowledge or consent...That basically means that nobody reads the end user license agreement, right? ... and charge you monthly for it? If that works for you have at it. I say NFW. And I hope you're not gullible enough to believe monthly fees won't eventually happen to all versions of 10.This is FUD, as it applies only for cloud services (namely Office 365 and Azure - both provided for a fee before) integrated into the Enterprise edition. So the fee is *not* for the OS. Quote from the article you've linked: That cost will be $7 per user per month but the good news is it only applies to enterprises, for now. The new pricing tier will be called “Windows 10 Enterprise E3” and it means Windows has finally joined Office 365 and Azure as a subscription service. BTW Windows 10 is not free. It costs the same as the previous versions. Only the upgrade from the previous versions is free, but this opportunity will end in 29th July. But it's also clearly stated in the article you've linked. | |
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I can recall that the same accusation has been made when Windows 7 was released (so Windows 7 also does "phone home"). It can be completely disabled in 7. Not in 8, 8.1 or 10. So, by that logic because everyone/everything else is already spying on us Microsoft should be able to join in without your knowledge or consent and charge you monthly for it? If that works for you have at it. I say NFW. And I hope you're not gullible enough to believe monthly fees won't eventually happen to all versions of 10.You must have missed the highlighted part. So, by that logic because everyone/everything else is already spying on us Microsoft should be able to join in without your knowledge or consent Why didn't you quote the whole sentence. If you want to let MS spy on you that's your choice. My choice is NFW. Just like I block google, yahoo and all the rest. If you think that the "spying" in Windows 10 is an illegal activity from Microsoft's part then sue them for it in court. You'll loose that case. So now you're an expert on US law? I don't know about your country but it is illegal in the US without consent. MS has already been sued and lost for illegal and non-consent upgrades. Now that there has been precedent set there will be more coming, you can bet on it. Microsoft pays woman $10,000 over forced Windows 10 upgrade Thousands of computers made useless because of Windows 10” | |
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If you think that the "spying" in Windows 10 is an illegal activity from Microsoft's part then sue them for it in court. You'll loose that case. Quite right. You are handing them the loaded gun, and even paying for them to use it. That is why I think the objections to the NSA's "spying" on us are rather quaint. They aren't interested in you social life, only in patterns of contacts to terrorists. You give away far more of you personal life with the above-mentioned social media apps. This is so far off topic that if skgiven wants to delete it, I won't complain, but just had to say it. | |
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I didn't miss it, I consider it as a statement to cause Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.And I hope you're not gullible enough to believe monthly fees won't eventually happen to all versions of 10.You must have missed the highlighted part. Microsoft won't charge you monthly for that OS which you've already licensed once. I'm not an expert on US law :), but I think it's illegal to take away your vested rights, and charging for the possibility to use something you've already have the right to use would be considered as doing so. That "update to Windows 10" dialog box is a really nasty one, as both buttons in it approve the update, and you have to close the dialog box to avoid the update, so it was quite easy to prove it's misleading. They've deserved to loose that case. The precedent established by the sentence of that case can't be applied to the "spying", as you have to prove that the data transmitted to MS is outside the regulations of the EULA (for example it should contain any kind of personal data).If you think that the "spying" in Windows 10 is an illegal activity from Microsoft's part then sue them for it in court. You'll loose that case. Thousands of computers made useless because of Windows 10”That's actually good news, as about 350 million have been updated successfully. Based on my personal experience (I've updated about 100 PCs, desktops and notebooks), if anything goes wrong with the update it's hardware related (bad RAM modules, or inappropriate BIOS) Note: This is my last post about this in the GTX 1070 thread. | |
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And I hope you're not gullible enough to believe monthly fees won't eventually happen to all versions of 10. I agree. From the Forbes article: "Consequently there will have to be a cut off point somewhere, sometime – mostly likely when Microsoft feels Windows 10 is at the ‘Windows 11’ stage of development. At that point I suspect Microsoft may simplify things and just rename it ‘Windows’. Here is when all Windows pricing could become subscription only given even upfront costs would expire at some point and become a messy marketing exercise." As someone who's dealt with MS and watched their antics since the beginning, I suspect that once they've gotten a majority of users to convert to Windows 10 there'll be a name change and the other shoe will drop. The subscription model is embedded in the OS, knowing MS it would be uncharacteristic if they didn't make the most of it. What do you think their motivation is for offering the limited time "free" update and all the antics they've pulled to deceive people into unwittingly "upgrading" to W10? Personally hope to be able to move to Linux before too long and certainly before Win7 ends support. For mobile computing I already have: Chromebooks, which are all running folding@home in their spare time. In fact all my f@h credits are via Chromebooks. | |
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My main complaint about Windows 10 was that you couldn't stop the driver updates. But in the latest version, you apparently can. They just call it "manufacturers' apps" rather than "drivers", but seems otherwise the same. | |
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On the one dedicated crunching machine that I have converted to Win10, I don't want even the monthly updates, since they have a bad habit of hanging up on reboots. So I just disable the Background Intelligent Transfer Service.I think it's a better idea to disable the "Windows Update" service for that purpose. The other machines stay on Win7 or go to Ubuntu 16.04.If you want to stay on Windows 7 and you're planning to use that PC for more than 3 years, it's practical to update to Windows 10, and after the successful update (check if Windows 10 is activated) immediately revert back to Windows 7 (you can do it for 31 days after the update). In this way your PC will have a Windows 10 license, so when the support for Windows 7 ends 3 years from now, you can install Windows 10 without purchasing a license key. The best practice is to use a spare HDD/SSD for this process, in this case you can keep your current Windows 7 untouched. Do a fresh install of Windows 7 on the spare HDD/SSD (you have to install the network drivers), then update it to Windows 10, and store the spare in a safe place (or you can erase it, as you can reinstall Windows 10 any time once your config has obtained a license during the update). Linux (and Windows XP) is a better choice for crunching, as they don't have the WDDM overhead, thus these OSes can crunch faster on GPUs (especially on high-end GPUs). | |
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If you want to stay on Windows 7 and you're planning to use that PC for more than 3 years, it's practical to update to Windows 10, and after the successful update (check if Windows 10 is activated) immediately revert back to Windows 7 (you can do it for 31 days after the update). In this way your PC will have a Windows 10 license, so when the support for Windows 7 ends 3 years from now, you can install Windows 10 without purchasing a license key. Yes, I am thinking along similar lines, since I might want to use those machines for desktop purposes eventually, and they would be better off with Win10 at that point. But I can just leave them on Win10 after the conversion; with enough doctoring up, they will work as well as Win7 for my purposes. And I could convert them to Ubuntu if I need more Linux support. But Windows is still best for some projects, and it is easier to get VirtualBox running on it, for those projects that need it. | |
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Guys, please back to topic! | |
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Guys, please back to topic!OK. We need GPUGrid to support the Pascal GPUs now! Am I being on topic in the right way? :) Too bad, that there's no blinking fonts. I think I should make an animgif. | |
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Don't think anyone of consequence is there, summer holidays. | |
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Don't think anyone of consequence is there, summer holidays.I will be in summer holidays from 19th July to 29th July. We'll be near to Barcelona, so we might want to drop in and say hello, then hold the crew captive while they do upgrade the app :) It's too bad that this plan is busted by that there's nobody in the lab who could be held captive. | |
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Don't think anyone of consequence is there, summer holidays.I will be in summer holidays from 19th July to 29th July. What you could do is convert all their Linux boxes to Windows 10 :-) Sorry, I'm weak... | |
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Zoltan, remember to bring your Pascal GPU with you - otherwise they won't be able to do much :p | |
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Zoltan, remember to bring your Pascal GPU with you - otherwise they won't be able to do much :pI will bring all of my cards with me. While they put the Pascal in the test config, I block all the exits with my obsolete cards. :) | |
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That's dedication :) | |
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There are a lot of post about which Windows X is better.. I'm too lazy to read all of this... but thanks for picture.. :-) | |
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Does it now make sense to allow GPUgrid tasks on it (beta flag set in account settings)? No. You could also run POEM (some other biological research) or Einstein (gravitational wave and pulsar detection.. their BOINC project already found well over 200 of those) on your Pascal GPU. MrS ____________ Scanning for our furry friends since Jan 2002 | |
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Alright.. good idea, I let it run for POEM until GPUgrid is ready. | |
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I'm not even close to Barcelona yet, but it has worked :)That's dedication :)Zoltan, remember to bring your Pascal GPU with you - otherwise they won't be able to do much :pI will bring all of my cards with me. While they put the Pascal in the test config, I block all the exits with my obsolete cards. :) | |
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